host: the budget, economy, guns. presidentr from vice- biden in a few minutes as he addresses the gun issue. our phone lines are open. you can send us the e-mail or join us on our twitter page. let me ask you both about what is happening in number of other cities. harrisburg, pennsylvania. you talk about infrastructure. facing or discussing the possibility of bankruptcy. as you look at what other cities are dealing with, what lessons can you apply to your respective cities? guest: scranton, harrisburg, bernadine no -- san bernardino -- these are the exceptions. we are in fairly good financial shape. the biggest challenges we have a are the same as a lot of others. business, pension debt. that seems to be the one factor of many of these cities. host: how much goes to a pension? how much is taken off the top before you can do anything? guest: in most cities, 70% + goes to public safety or more. 70 plus percent side of any department -- you can imagine what that does to a city budget. in mesa, with a debate on the publi